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PostSubject: Re: ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM}   ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM} - Page 14 EmptyWed Aug 06 2014, 11:50

OOC: Likewise you didn't say anything about the absorbing of the ability the first time. I didn't say anything because when I read it on your board and said something to you about it you said it was incomplete. I DID express that the whole idea of it not having a drain bugged me. From the jump. So you can't say that I waited until now. I didn't see any resolution to the tag thing. You said "My bad" I said "Let it slide".... thats not a resolution, thats a settlement. The amaterasu thing... I still can't wrap around that. I mean, firstly, its a jutsu you've never been exposed to. Secondly yes you have chakra sense. Your max capacity of sensing is 2800. I exceed that... a lot. I totally accept that, though that is not in the description, that argument could be made that that what chakra sensing is for. If it's not in the description, or in the restrictions, it can be done. Creativity, as Omni urges. However, there still is that 2800 cap. Feeling heat around you... while rain is pouring around your body. And being able to differentiate it between a jutsu and temperature change in less than an instant.... yea....... The source in which it comes from cannot be sensed, so I urge you to give another supporting factor. What I'm saying about the Kawarimi is that I hit you at the same time you hit me, so if you Kawarimi'd while I hit you, then that means that your attack never hit me neither. But since you'd brought up the hand seal thing... how does that work when you need hand seals but you're in double wield?
I'm not saying I'm complaining, but since we are asking all of the unanswered questions.....
Where could I find the details of this ability anyway? I can't find it anywhere.
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PostSubject: Re: ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM}   ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM} - Page 14 EmptyWed Aug 06 2014, 12:18

((OOC: Firstly when I told you it was incomplete that was because I had to get certain things for it done and those are done now so it's complete, 2nd I control all the elements around us mostly so I can tell the difference, I can feel the warmth touching the water and what your saying about your attack not hitting me, it hit you because you allowed it too, I evaded at the last second allowing my hit to land and just cause I'm dual wielding doesn't mean I can't make handseals, the swords are just incorporated into the seals. And still I could sense you charging something up for that attack hence the fact I knew to dodge it, all my attacks and evasions are through how I'd evade all these attacks because Raijin is who I am, I made my own character after me, and yes I am exactly the same as my character in more than one way, hence the reason why I'm doing better then you, you're forcing open loop holes that are and will never be there, we're just running into problems and other things more along the way because of your majority of all these OOC's. I didn't really notice the whole gourd hitting the ability thing until I read over the gourd again today, so that's kinda where I got a little disturbed about, it only works against Techniques not abilities, so my attacks are still in play as well as the fact that I attacked you 3 times.

Back to the handseal thing, if you'd like I can damn well fix that with a new seed I've been working on that will remove my need to use handseals at all...

oh and you can still sense heat while it's raining... oh yeah that's right you can, I've played in the rain all the time when I was younger and we were close enough I could clearly sense it completely, does that answer all of that now?

All that aside I'm holding my post off until all of this is resolved.))
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PostSubject: Re: ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM}   ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM} - Page 14 EmptyWed Aug 06 2014, 12:43

OOC: Well you asked why I didn't say anything before, so my answer was because it was incomplete. Secondly, you said you can only control the elements in which YOU have. You said that yourself. And I'm not absorbing your ability. I'm absorbing the elements in which the ability uses. Big difference. Thats bull fucking shit btw about the OOC thing. Go ahead and look through these OOC and count how many I've STARTED compared to you. You up me friend. I've OOC once, and even then never said I wasn't going to post. I ran with it and changed my post every single time. Go ahead. Count it.
Thats fine. Make a new seed. But that doesn't have shit to do with this battle.

Whatever loop holes you say I'm opening, you're doing just about the same, so don't dare claim to be doing better than me. Especially when you are using a system that A- was not completed until the middle of this battle to use in the middle of this battle, and B- I still can't seem to find anywhere on this site....

I will prepare this new post, because chances are, and history proves, the odds will be in your favor (no offence Omni. Favortism happens to the best of us). Otherwise, agreed, the will resume after Omni gives direction and instruction on what to do next.
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PostSubject: Re: ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM}   ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM} - Page 14 EmptyWed Aug 06 2014, 13:36

Allowing his clone to take the hit, and feeling the returning chakra, Shadow simply muttered the word “Absorb” absorbing the technique the he himself birthed after his failed fireball jutsu that was put out by the controlled water. However, he put down the defense in which blocked him from making any contact. His body dispersed into a flock of crows once again avoiding the technique and ramming into the hopeful body of the man, before reforming on the other side of him. Performing seal, Shadow used his Continuous Fireball technique, that accelerated the speed of fireballs to shoot out at a faster rate than normal, just after converting them into the Enton element.
[113|2409]
PERSONAL ACTIONS (5 MAX)


-0 Sennin Upkeep (NCD 50)
-0 Sharingan Upkeep (CD 15)
-0 Akugyouzanmai (Turn 5/5)(Stats + 50%)
-0 Clone 2 defeated
-1 Absorb Elemental Control Sphere (CD 455)
-1 Karasu Kawarimi (CD 75|SD 75)(GUARENTEED HIT)(5555 MAX DMG)
-1/2 Katon to Enton – Continuous Fireball (CD 159| SD 144)(5053 MAX DMG)(NCD 10)(Roll + 3)
-1/2 Katon to Enton – Continuous Fireball (CD 50)(5053 MAX DMG)(NCD 10)(Roll + 3)
-1/2 Katon to Enton – Continuous Fireball (CD 50)(5053 MAX DMG)(NCD 10)(Roll + 3)
-1/2 Katon to Enton – Continuous Fireball (CD 50)(5053 MAX DMG)(NCD 10)(Roll + 3)
-1 Deactivating Akugyouzanmai (Return to normal beginning of next post)

”Shadow”:
”Shukaku”:
”Flash”:
”Blaze”:

Ambush Total Stats
Troops[HP]: 1000 + 500 [Gesshoku] + 200 [Clone x 2]= 1700
ATK: 40 + 30 [Shukaku] + 25 [Gesshoku] + 20 [Clone x 2] = 115
DEF: 30

OOC: Here you go revised. Not absorbing any water. Clone dead, fireball gone. Result remains the same. Wind shield down. Literally the ONLY difference that there is compared to the last post is I have a dead clone. HOWEVER, I would still like have both of our previous bouts settled by Omni, because this needs to never happen again in the future.
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PostSubject: Re: ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM}   ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM} - Page 14 EmptyThu Aug 07 2014, 12:56

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OOC: The Gourd stats what it can do, which is only absorb techniques and People. Never stated it absorbs chakra. Even within the description, if you found a way around that I'd think it be worse on your part as you'd have to give up more to use it. That's just my saying.

1. Seems the Custom Abilities/Seeds has come to getting out of hand which is why I did not wish to allow them at first. However Raijin I'll be reworking on the ability for everyone in a bit so we do not run into this problem again. As well I will continue to think about rather or not to allow more customization afterwards.

2. As well the Gourd does not state it can absorb ability used effects. Which again goes to my first statement that its not limited to doing so BUT it would cause you to pay a huge price as again the items MUST have a chakra cost to use them.

3. I was confused as to what happen at first because of the whole Rolling of a "5" before hand now you all know the rolls correspond to that action. Ie. 12 vs 5 and etc. and performing a counter action as stated forfeits rolls meaning if you do a Evasion Roll you cannot or should not be able to perform a Counter Action. As it is clearly written on the Combat Guidance, However this could be a mistake on my part cause of words used. Which is why I also let it pass.

4. As for dual wielding, it stats one can dual wield two blades during combat. Now if he placed them down to perform the seals then that would pass with him picking them up as it would be just like your Technique Hayabusa, Upon using the 1 hand seal to trigger the Kumo Kinjutsu should have been shown [-1 Action: 1 Hand Seal - Activation of ***] Cause it through me off as to what was being activated until you did it next post which then fixed everything.

5. Even though your technique is stated a "guaranteed hit" that would mean you'd be rolling a auto 20. Which does not mean you'd get a hit if the person performs a counter action of Supportive ie, Flying Thunder God or Kawarimi. Even more so that technique has been shown to have the user take damage in falsely hood, Kakashi Vs Sasuke during the Genin Exam or Kakashi vs the Oni Brothers. We never seem him use the hand seals for the technique for that matter as well. It again hand seals are added for RP/Words to allow that if you have 100% chakra control then I'd be like okay for that ranked technique I understand. But I wouldn't allow it UNLESS you had reasons and facts to back it up as I showed.

6. Now for the damage that was done If Raijin attacked you and then you performed the technique as well as him you'd have to do the chain for it. Raijin's Attack hits causing your attack to trigger and before getting hit his attack would trigger.

7. Amatersau not seeing but feeling something is off, still goes to show you are shinobi and etc. Why stay in the way of something that you feel is coming? Its like a moving truck you never seen that kind of truck before but do you stand there like a deer?

8. I urge you to be creative with things yes but do not bend reality by your will. Ie. If you haven't studied how a Bijuudama is formed what makes you think you can create a technique like the Bijuudama? Minato studied the bijuudama and created Rasengan. That is creative. Even more so that Puppet armor, I was trying to figure out how you were absorbing chakra from the generator if it only creates strings and its effects do not even state, you can absorb the chakra from which was stored? This would be something that you created, I allowed it because the idea seemed to save you chakra to use puppets not absorb it. So does that mean you made a mistake on this item? or are you performing the Devil's Grip? Which is why I left it alone until after the war, but it shouldn't be going on this long as the battle system was simple to use BEFORE the war.

Also with the Puppet Armor being tuned of your Muscles, Cells and etc it doesn't mean it would still recover your chakra, It could mean it shares what you have.

Puppet Armor:

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PostSubject: Re: ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM}   ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM} - Page 14 EmptyThu Aug 07 2014, 13:43

1. I don't think any of us agree with not having custom things. It gives us all our own creative individuality. There just needs to be a defined line of what things can and cannot do.

2. Alright

3. I'm not understanding what you're saying or who this is implied towards. But I'm assuming you're saying that its meant to be ONE counter action per post, period?

5. Understood

6. Doesn't make perfect sense but whatever. I'm over it obviously. I didn't make a fuss about it then.

7. Be careful with your words. He's Samurai, not shinobi. What I'm saying is how would one differentiate the heat of natural weather compared to the heat of a spontaneous jutsu. Just because a  person walks up to you doesn't mean you know whether that person is a threat or not. The deer and truck thing... did make me giggle.

8. Its a basic assumption. If it can be stored it can be used. I've done it in the battle against Shukaku and it wasn't an issue. It simply says it can store up to 5000 chakra. Was i wrong in assuming this? This is what I thought it was meant to be from day one, otherwise I would've made my own. Either way if I HAD to explain the technicality of it to work, I would say this much. The string generated could attach to me and transfer chakra to me through such nature, using medical ninjutsu through the chakra line, if need be. I can also absorb chakra (medical jutsu) so either way would work. But I legitly LEGITLY on some no bullshit loop hole "didn't describe it that way" stuff thought that, even from the last site, that it being a Chakra Storage Container and all meant you had to store chakra into it that you could use later. Otherwise I would've used the action to beable to absorb it from the container.

Lastly... simple? Yes, it's simple. But using Kawarimi 25 times is also simple. If nobody can ever get hit, how does it end.
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Heise was now getting agitated and worried he stood up and cracked his neck. He then moved forward from the room. Suddenly Sky appeared.
“Sky, This war has been going on way to long.” He said. He grabbed himself a drink of water. When he came up he wiped his mouth with his gloves and then turned to Sky completely.
“Have Flash let Hayabusa that he has exactly, 3 Hours to finish up in the war or I will appear. This is my final command.” He said. He turned his head and looked at the sky. He remembered he placed a Hiraishin mark in Taki and it would be no problem for him to warp directly to the battlefield though it would take quite a bit of chakra.
He placed his hands together and began forming hand seals.
“For Safety measures as I am the Supreme Commander of the war I will Leave Hiraishin Mark here” He said as he burned his Flying Monkey Raijin Symbol to the ground. Heise found it funny that a lot of his jutsu’ had grown a monkey adaptation to them in some shape or form. Sabu then appeared next to him.
“Sabu, You and Sky are going to come with me to the battlegrounds in case anything fishy happens. If there is indeed need of more reinforcements here, I will go grab Sensei Shizou from Konoha and warp him here. But I do believe the enemy is sane enough not to attack at our Homefront.” Heise said. He looked at Sky one more time.
"Prep the med squad to begin travel to Takigakure" Heise said.


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Why is my chakra 570 in my bio? Simply shit like that gets me irritated guys. -_-.

In My Defense... I only wanted one thing here. >_> Screw the country.

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O Health Pts: 549/549 [549]
---HP Marker Worth: -10 HP | [0]
O Physical | Spiritual | Nature EN: 1766/1766 >> 1408 | 2140/2140 | 0/1923
O Chakra Pts: 3906/3906 >> 3356
---Mind Gauge: 100% [Healthy]
---Nature Control: 100%
---Chakra Control: 062%

O Strength: 588
O Endurance: 588 (623)
O Dexterity: 590 (620)
O Intelligence: 1070
O Luck: 000 [Do Not Change
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PostSubject: Re: ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM}   ~Shadow Country vs Taki County~ {Open DM} - Page 14 EmptyFri Aug 08 2014, 00:29

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OOC:
3. No Counter Actions are able to be used more than once, its just if you start your turn wanting to use them then You cannot roll for Evasion cause you forfeit it and any others before your turn starts now. Which is why its best to have a set way of doing it.

Ie.
+ If Opponent's Roll is too high then Counter Action.
+ If Opponent's Roll is too low then roll for evasion.

Also no it was not directed at anyone I was just stating that simple fact.

7. There is actually been some cases where people can feel someone being a threat or able to sense they are a threat. Thus the meaning I have a "bad feeling."

8. No, I remember you doing it before against Shukaku I wanted to double check on it and make sure I was right about it. I could understand if you stated that you fixed up the chakra generator so it stores but flows into the caster or etc.

As for the Kawarimi, yes its a move that can be used over and over and over getting nowhere but its the same with using the same moves. Good example, Halo getting the rockets or sword or shotgun, either way your a whore of one of those weapons. or CoD camping, it may be frowned upon but its still a tactic to surviving.

As for your bio Heise, I'm not sure why it was like that but I fixed it.
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I'm not saying anything against the Kawarimi. I'm just responding to why it's taking so long. You don't put Goku and Vegeta in a ring together and expect it to take an hour to finish... or a day.... or even a week.
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So can we continue or what? I redid my post. I'm not absorbing any ability aside from my original fuuton. My clone went bye bye. Do we have permission to proceed and start the timer now?
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((OOC: I'm taking a day off, I'll post tomorrow...
1. I don't really have much say.
2-8. Same as #1))
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